An attempt at a state level to insure the 8% that were uninsured that caused these big issues financially in the state. They will also find that the veto proof House and Senate of the state added some things to the Bill which Mitt Romney vetoed as he saw they were not good. In turn he was vetoed back. As of 2010, 68% of the state still likes what they have, imperfect as it is. Originally it was only 1% of the state budget and did not have any new taxes to pay for it. Two amendments were added the year after Mitt Romney left.
State mandates are constitutional, and were used by the founding fathers. It is called states rights. In this health care plan there is no attack on private heath care. It really should not even be an issue. If Obama Care were not an issue nationally, then this would not even be brought up. They are clearly two different birds altogether. Not even close. Yet to the misinformed, it is an issue. But one that with some intellectual honesty can be understood.
This nation was formed by men with a basic Christian approach. Many had a faith in God and many also had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ by faith. The problem with Mormonism is they totally portray Jesus as someone other than the Christian Jesus. The Christian Jesus is God and always was God. The Christian God was always God. That is not so with the Mormons. Their God was once a man. Their Jesus was conceived by their God and a Goddess. It gets really troubling, the more you read from the founders of their faith. It is in essence what Christians call a Bible based Cult.
This has nothing to do with the ability of Mitt Romney to Govern. It did not affect him one iota as a Governor. What he did as Governor was remarkable against a veto proof legislature. I find it sad that people think because he governed in a liberal state, he must be a liberal too. That's like saying if you live in a area where people are mostly liberal, then you must be also. Is that fair to you? It's not fair to you either. He has had a remarkable record in business and he had a very conservative record as a Governor.
If you do not think Mitt is conservative, go look at his 844 vetoes. They are all conservative.
Worried about his choices for Supreme Court? One of the great conservative legal minds of all time, Robert Bork endorses him. Has no doubt he would nominate conservatives. As Governor he did not get that Chance.
Worried about Guns? The NRA endorses him and laws he worked on actually made it easier for good law abiding citizens to get them and harder for criminals.
Pro Life? Look at his vetoes. He fought hard for pro-life.
Illegal Immigration? He defunded sanctuary cities in his state and is for enforcing federal laws. He is against Amnesty. What more would you want?
Federal Mandates like Obama Care? He is against federal mandates and is for repealing Obama Care. He believes these issues must be decided on in a state to state basis.
Cap and trade? He is against it. He says it is a financial disaster and there is no ways to measure how much Man affects the climate.
Is he big Government? Well he cut 341 social programs to balance a state deficit with no new taxes. Cutting Programs is downsizing Government. He has a plan out there to cut 500 billion in spending right away and is looking into more. He wants an amendment that America can not deficit spend anymore.
He took his state in one term from 50th in unemployment to 11th. He brought in 111 new businesses and created laws to help those already in business. He has a 169 page plan to fix the American economy that works within the system we have in place. It has been lauded by economists.
Isn't he a career politician or a Washington Insider? No. he is a career businessman. Jim DeMint, known as Mr Conservative states that Mitt Romney is not an insider.
Jim DeMint also says Mitt Romney is a doer and not a talker. Isn't that what this country needs? listen to this one too.
I am a born again believer. I study Christian Apologetics. If Mitt Romney pushed Mormonism, I would not vote for him, even though he is far and away the most accomplished and most qualified ever to run for President of the United states. But Mitt Romneys faith is private to him and because of that I have no problem voting for him.
He is a very moral man. Great leader, great problem solver. Wonderful family man. I believe, extremely conservative. I think he would be a great person to sit down and talk to. Much to learn from him. He is the smartest man in this race and also humble.
But, the Mormon Faith will be a battlefield.Most Mormons sadly have no idea who the founders were and what they were really all about. Here are some links as to why. They will be used against him. He can not side step them without renouncing his personal faith. It will be tough. I know he will handle it with extreme grace.
Jesus Christ
- The Jesus of Mormonism
- Physical conception?
- Born "at Jerusalem"?
- Was Jesus Married?
- Unique priesthood
- Lucifer's brother
- Atonement at Calvary or Gethsemane?
- LDS Christmas Story
For Obama it will be easy pickings on this one:
Brigham Young comments about blacks
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind....Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 290).
"In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the children of Ham were to be the "servant of servants," and no power under heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord would permit them to welter under the curse and those were known to be our religious views concerning them." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 172).
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110)
Can you say wow? Furthermore here are the issues with the Mormons and Christians:
Then you have the contradictions between the Mormon doctrine and the book of Mormon:
The Book of Mormon vs. Mormon Doctrine
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The list just goes on and on.
In the Bible a Prophet of God, in order to be recognized has to be 100% correct. The Main Prophet of the Mormon Church has some of the most ludicrous failed Prophecies ever. Ones that can never happen. Here is a doozy:
- All Nations would be involved in the American Civil War - "Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls; 2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place. 3
For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern
States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the
nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon
other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and
then war shall be poured out upon all nations," (Doctrine and Covenants 87:1-3). See context
- This is clearly another false prophecy since all nations did not get involved in the American Civil War.
There are many nice and moral Mormon people. Many have no idea the real background and history of their belief system. The sad part is that whenever you point out things from their own founders writings they say they are being persecuted and that you are a liar and hater. The Mormon Church's founders hated Christianity. The quotes you can find from them is once again, easy to find, and in their own publications.
Look here:
Does Mormonism Attack Other Religions?
by Matt Slick
Mormons do not like it when their Church is labeled a cult by Christians. This bothers them and they want desperately to be accepted as Christian by the Christian community. The Mormon church spends a great deal of time and money on public relations with the aim of portraying a loving, family-oriented, non-condemning Christian denomination. But Christians react to this and cite the great differences in doctrine between Mormons and Christians and continue to pronounce the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a non-Christian cult.
The battle continues and Mormons try to claim that they do not go around condemning other religions like "anti-Mormons" do. They say they are forgiving, tolerant, good Christian people who don't have anything against anyone. They claim they are being more Christ-like.
Their desire for a good image is understandable. But the question remains. Does the Mormon church condemn other religious systems? The answer is definitely, "Yes." Let's look at Mormon writers and see what they have said.
Joseph Smith said . . .
(Regarding Joseph Smith's alleged first vision where celestial personages appeared to him.) . . .) "My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt . . ." (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 1, p. 5-6)."What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith, p. 270.)(In questions directed to Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism. . .)
First -- "Do you believe the Bible?"
If we do, we are the only people under heaven that do, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do."
Third — "Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?"
Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings, page 119.)Brigham Young said. . ."But He did send His angel to this same obscure person, Joseph Smith jun., who afterwards became a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, and informed him that he should not join any of the religious sects of the day, for they were all wrong," (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, 1855, p. 171).John Taylor said . . ."We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense.... Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, 1858, p. 167)."Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, 1863, p. 127).James Talmage said . . ."A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ," (The Articles of Faith, Deseret Book Company, Salt Lake City, p. 182).Bruce McConkie said . . ."With the loss of the gospel, the nations of the earth went into a moral eclipse called the Dark Ages," (Mormon Doctrine, Bookcraft, Salt Lake City, Utah, p. 44).Joseph Fielding Smith said . . ."Again, following the death of his apostles, apostasy once more set in, and again the saving principles and ordinances of the gospel were changed to suit the conveniences and notions of the people. Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness," (Doctrines of Salvation, page 266).The Book of Mormon says. . ."And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth" (1 Nephi 14:10)."And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose foundation is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence. . ." (1 Nephi. 14:17).The Doctrine and Covenants says . . .
When the Mormon missionaries come to the door and do their "gospel" presentation, they mention an apostasy and the need for a prophet, their prophet, to restore the true Teachings of Jesus. Of course, these ‘restored' teachings are completely false."Verily, verily, I say unto you, darkness covereth the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people, and all flesh has become corrupt before my face" (Doctrine and Covenants, 112:23).
Nevertheless, the Mormon church clearly condemns other religious systems. Those Mormons who complain about poor treatment should familiarize themselves with their teachers' words.
Brigham Young said you must confess Joseph Smith as a prophet of God in order to be saved.
"...and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 312).
Brigham Young said his discourses are as good as Scripture.
"I say now, when they [his discourses] are copied and approved by me they are as good Scripture as is couched in this Bible . . . " (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 264; see also p. 95).
Brigham Young said he had never given any counsel that was wrong.
"I am here to answer. I shall be on hand to answer when I am called upon, for all the counsel and for all the instruction that I have given to this people. If there is an Elder here, or any member of this Church, called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who can bring up the first idea, the first sentence that I have delivered to the people as counsel that is wrong, I really wish they would do it; but they cannot do it, for the simple reason that I have never given counsel that is wrong; this is the reason." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 16, p. 161).
Brigham Young said you are damned if you deny polygamy.
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266). Also, "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269)
Brigham Young said you can't get to the highest heaven without Joseph Smith's consent.
"...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).
Brigham Young said that God the Father and Mary 'do it.'
"When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came Himself and favoured that spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218). "The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood -- was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115). Note: the late Bruce McConkie who was a member of the First Council of the Seventy stated "There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events..." (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 742).
Brigham Young said that Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Spirit.
"I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 51).
Brigham Young taught that Adam was God.
"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken -- He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50).
Mitt Romney has my vote. He is a great man and a great leader. He is the right person for the job. It is unfortunate that he has been raised in this faith that to the outside world reads more like a comic book gone astray than a real belief system. That's why they call it a cult. He does not push this and it has not affected him in Governing, nor in the business world. Maybe Obama will not want to push these issues, but all the information is there to cause problems. Mitt is far and away the most accomplished and qualified to turn this mess around.
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